overproductive post nasal drip causing severe cough

[Parisa]

JB,

NAC (n acetyl cysteine) I believe is the cornerstone to my husband's recovery from pulmonary fibrosis.

[Eva Holloway]

JB,

it helped me too with the interstitial pulmonary fibrosis. Had a good report the last two times I saw the doctor. I have been using NAC for over a year now.

Eva:D

Eva Holloway

[JBJBJB]

[user=13]Parisa[/user] wrote:

JB,

NAC (n acetyl cysteine) I believe is the cornerstone to my husband's recovery from pulmonary fibrosis.

Parisa,

I will definitely look into it. Right now my shortness of breath is almost gone after almost two months of Flagyl. I hope this NAC will stop the post nasal drip and my voice will return to normal. I have to give up one teaching position because my cough and voice problem. 🙁

Eva,

Thanks for sharing your experience with NAC.

Karen,

I am so glad you mentioned this medicine. I hope my body will respond it well and it will give my life back.

Can't wait!!!

Hugs to all,

JB

[A Friend]

[user=379]Elaine son w/MCTD[/user] wrote:

The onset of my illness began with a jaw infection (not involving a tooth) and abx RX caused it to break loose and spread up into my sinuses.  Infection was later viewed on MRI… 2 years afterward.  It was at this point in time that I first read this book and chose to use the GSE.  I increased from 5 to 15 much too fast, and had a virtual “mud slide” coming down my throat, and this caused chills, fever, and nightsweats every night.  I finally realized the amount of drainage was directly related to the number of drops I was using.  I cut back on the GSE, and then the chills/fever/nightsweats also cut back — a direct relationship.  

 

Hi AF, JB, or as they say here ya'll,

I was looking for this post from AF or one similar to it. My son has also been having a lot of sinus drainage and cough. PCP did a chest xray and said his heart looked larger than in December (when it was back within normal limits) and that he has fluid in his right lung. Sent him for echocardiogram and results were surprising. He has less leakage and considered to be improved. No sign of pleural effusion, although he was coughing up first green phlegm and now white foamy spit.

I was trying to figure out what brought all of this on. He stopped the IM shots of claforan when the fever first started thinking it may be a herx, then three days later planned to continue IM shots when he started having sore throat and stuffy nose. 4 days later started taking zith for possible URI, was still having cough, high fever runny nose. The Zith has helped his fever is gone, ears getting better but cough still there, seems to be partly due to his pericarditis so wants to get back on Claforan IM shots soon thinking this maybe helping his heart.

I am thinking maybe all of the runny nose, fever is from these detox drops he started several weeks ago. I remembered AF posting years ago about a cytokine storm, and pneumonia and was first worried this maybe the case but now I wonder if it could be from the allopathic detox because it is for lymph drainage and liver and kidney detox also. It is known to cause cold like symptoms. It was very enlightening to see how your reaction AF is identical to my sons with the high fever and night sweats. I always wondered if this was a flare or a herx but now I think it is the release/removal of toxins that cause his fevers.  

Still not sure how to interpret his echo. Less leakage but heart muscle is larger. Wonder if fluid in his lung could be toxins released from his heart. Die off from Claforan shots? Or did the deotox drops do that?

Any thoughts?

XX,

Elaine son w/MCTD

Hi Elaine…. What a loaded post!  It goes without saying that my ideas are just ideas, and colored by my own experience.  In my case, when I began the GSE (a very effective product for what was going on with my sinuses from the infection, and I determined there was a “cause” and “effect” as I upped the dosage and then lowered it; so in my case, I was sure my body was having Herxheimer reactions proportionate to the dosage of the GSE. 

The results from the echocardiogram seem to say something is having a positive effect, but someone knowledgeable of the heart needs to determine the size part of it.  So many of us with chronic illness, I've read, have mitral valve prolapse (guess this may have been present either before or after illness — can't recall speciifics of what I read… just may have a file I've kept on this).   I'm not knowlegeable of the use of Claforan and any of its effects. 

About your mention of my pneumonia, I developed this almost immediately after returning from my first treatment in Iowa with 5 days of IVs.  When the pneu. was treated and I was over it, I felt better than I had in a very long time!   I feel very sure that the buildup of fluid in my lungs, creating the pneumonia, was die-off related.  The local hospital x-ray diagnosis by the ER physician (husband took me there in the middle of the night) was an “atypical pneumonia.”  After a search and looking up atypical pneumona, another name for this is “mycoplasma pneumonia or walking pneumonia”… AHAA!!!

In the same sentence with pneumonia, you mentioned “cytokine storm.”  This in my case was a different time and being treated with Zithromax for an abnormal  lab dx of C. Pneu.  Apparently, my body was already overly acidic (though that subject was not known to me then) with the infection, and taking Minocin (all meds are acidic), and then being rx'd the Zithromax (known to be hard on the liver… mine was already apparently very taxed because of the acidosis and the liver has to detox all meds and everything else… and it apparently just couldn't detox them and that's when the “cytokine storm” took place.  That took me about 3 weeks for the horrific pain to be gone… so stopped ALL medications and ALL supplements for a time.)

Elaine, all of the above, with your son and with my own experience, seem very similar.  My longtime mentor and friend (and one of the most knowledgeable patients and advocates of Dr. Brown's protocols told me just a day or two ago, that every one of us who are ill need to check our pH regularly to make sure it is kept in a range to help the body heal and not become too acidic… because oxygen is needed for healing, and if we are acidic, our cells become anerobic and more acidic and we become sicker.  Funny thing, as much as we had discussed many things in the past, there was a long period of time that we'd had discussions such as this.  And, we had never discussed my own worsening condition by 2006.  What she wrote me in her latest e-mail were the same things I have been discovering for the last 3-4 years and getting much, much better all the time. 

Also, we must protect ourselves as we go through detoxing and herxing, by consuming lots of pure water (ideally high alkaline) and making sure we include combinations of antioxidants to support the body during these times to prevent damage by free radicals.  Also, I've read a good bit about our NEED to consume a good fiber product each day during any type of detoxing to absorb the toxins and help trap and force them out of the body, so they don't get re-absorbed through the gut (which resiphons fat soluble toxins back through the body if these cannot be expelled).  There are good articles on this… re: use of psyllium preparations, rice bran, etc., and some type of charcoal was mentioned, but care must be used in timing for all of these, so they don't affect our medications and our supplements.  I also understand good probiotics thrive best when we have good fiber in our diet. 

Enough already!!! lol  Good luck to you and your son.  Sounds like things are going in the right direction, and you need to learn more about the state of his heart.  Dr. Stephen Sinatra (outstanding cardiologist) has some excellent books and a web site, and he is one of the few noted heart specialists who also has degrees in nutrition, and more. 

AF

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[user=379]Elaine son w/MCTD[/user] wrote:

……I just found it very interesting that you both had high fever and night sweats as a herxheimer…………..
Weird thing I have discovered is that oral clindy will nip the fever in the bud. If it is a herxheimer, this seems counter inuitive. I am sure it must be just as acidic as other abx.

Thank you for reminding me of the other c pnue infections. It is hard to find posts that are as old as we are to this board.

I do appreciate the information about becoming less acidic and also about fiber for detox. (also alkaline water) Very helpful.

Glad to hear you are doing better. Curious if you have thoughts about becoming alkaline naturally and not forcing it? I remember reading something about this once.

XX,

Elaine

Elaine, referring to the first line of your post above.  I was not having fever and chills during the day at that time.  It was after I would go to bed at night, I would go sleep and wake up with fever and chills, take an ibuprofen, and in a few minutes I would fall asleep and be sweating, the chills and fever would leave, and the next morning I would wake up feeling pretty well… after having sweated out a lot of toxins, no doubt. 

It's interesting to read how each night at a particular time, our body detoxifies.  My guess is that all of the die-off that was happening to me from the GSE I was taking had to be addressed by my body, because the GSE had addressed a lot of unfriendly organisms and apparently there was lots of die-off in my system. 

If your son is having fever at other times regularly, this may be something different from what I was experiencing — or else his illness is from other infections and having additional effects on him, and the Clindy is also causing die-off.  I'll bet besides his taking the detox supplement that is causing some die-off, there are also organisms that the Clindy is addressing, perhaps those causing the heart inflammation.  So, perhaps, he has a double-header going on.   

In your post (above) highlighted in bold about becoming alkaline.  I simply became aware of how acidic my body was, and knew I couldn't get well until it was in the slightly alkaline healthy range.  We can't even live if our blood pH varies more than about 2/10 of a point; so the body uses up all our minerals when we are overly acidic, because staying alive trumps our body neutralizing wastes to be expelled in urine and feces.  So, since the body used up our minerals, and we don't have enough, the wastes can't be expelled and get stored in our fascia and other part parts away from major organs.  Our body has to have these minerals also in order to neutralize the acidic wastes and even perform hundreds of other enzyme functions, all very important.  When we are overly acidic, our cells become anerobic, and the terrain of our bodies get very unhealthy and all sorts of viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc. love an acidic environment and grow and multiply, and we become very oxygen deficient which adds to all of this.  (This is a part of what I've been learning since late 2006, and I believe all of it is true.  My local PCP tells me to keep on doing what I'm doing.)

A simplified version of what I did:  I learned about what foods are best for me, based on my type A blood chemistry, and what minerals I was deficient in.  There are all sorts of natural ways to help reverse acidosis.  If we get our pH in a healthy balance, the body can/will heal itself I read over and over…. because unfriendly organisms cannot exist in a pH balanced body.  It doesn't happen overnight, but a healthier more balanced pH body will begin working on getting us healthier, and it takes a while to reverse what has been done.  (I'm holding them to that!!!) 

Hope this makes sense to you.  (Our old posts still exist some place on RBFBB, but for some reason they have not been accessible for a long time.)  There are a lot of posts on the subject we are discussing.  Suggest you type in a word in the little white search window above. 

AF

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