June 20, 2010 at 6:25 pm #304353Jan Lucinda1Participant
Tea consumption linked to arthritis according to Prof. Collins of Georgetown.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/ … -arthritisJune 20, 2010 at 6:45 pm #348488Lyn_xParticipant
Perhaps cheap tea? Inexpensive tea contains a large amounts of fluoride (naturally)–even good tea might contain significant amounts of fluoride. Fluoride interferes with the thyroid and can cause hypothyroidism which, in turn, may adversely affect the immune system.June 20, 2010 at 7:27 pm #348489TrudiParticipant
Interesting that this post should come up today. I have been doing a lot of research on oxalic acid since Lynnie brought it up few weeks ago. Tea contains oxalic acid–
Oxalic acid is found in minute amounts in many vegetables and fruits. It is found in rather notable amounts in rhubarb, spinach, tea, cocoa, sorrel and pepper. Dr. Kellogg claims that “a cup of tea or cocoa contains four times as much oxalic acid as the body produces in its normal excretions in a day.”
There are some that say you need an abundance of oxalic acid to facilitate the immune system to kill off viruses, bacteria, cancers, etc.
And of course there are those that say that oxalic acid causes the joint pain. However, based on the theory of oxalic acid killing off viruses, bacteria, cancers, etc. too much may be the cause for herxing–
If you are experiencing pain it may be elevated for a short period when the oxalic acid begins to kill the virus. Follow the procedure for determining when you can begin to reduce the amount of pain pills necessary. And remember this procedure is based on virus being the cause of all arthritis.
I'm seeing my LLMD this Wednesday and will ask him about this. I've experienced a heightening of symptoms after eating, often enough, that there is definitely something in what I eat. Just haven't been able to pin it down. Oxalic acid is in a lot of foods, drinks, vegetables, etc.–I believe that is why I haven't been able to figure things out. Here is an article which lists foods which contain oxalic acid:
Eventually I'll get down to the bottom of all of this :)!!!!
Lyme/RA; AP 4/2008 off and on to 3/2010; past use of quinolones may be the cause of my current problems, (including wheelchair use); all supplements (which can aggravate the condition) were discontinued on 10/14/2012. Am now treating for the homozygous MTHFR 1298 mutation. Off of all pain meds since Spring '14 (was on them for years--doctor is amazed--me too). Back on pain med 1/2017. Reinfected? Frozen shoulder?June 20, 2010 at 10:03 pm #348490frhorngalParticipant
interesting…my naturopath and LLMD both recommend drinking large amounts of tea in order to ease inflammation. Depends on the individual I guess
RA/Lyme: 100mg Minocin (brand) MWF, 3mg LDN, 10mg CBD- BIDJune 21, 2010 at 12:56 am #348491Jan Lucinda1Participant
Alot of people seem to disagree with this, which, by the way is from the EULAR Congress.
I tried to view the article I shared and couldn't get it.June 21, 2010 at 7:28 pm #348492TrudiParticipant
In my inbox today was a notice of a new book The Lyme Diet, by Dr. Nicola McFadzean. One of her chapters is entitled The Lyme Diet is Low Oxalate.
Hmmmm!! Hear nothing about oxalates and now a whole lot!!
Based on my metabolic typying diet (mixed), it cautions not to over-eat foods containing oxalic acid. Getting more and more interesting!!
Lyme/RA; AP 4/2008 off and on to 3/2010; past use of quinolones may be the cause of my current problems, (including wheelchair use); all supplements (which can aggravate the condition) were discontinued on 10/14/2012. Am now treating for the homozygous MTHFR 1298 mutation. Off of all pain meds since Spring '14 (was on them for years--doctor is amazed--me too). Back on pain med 1/2017. Reinfected? Frozen shoulder?June 21, 2010 at 8:33 pm #348493spfisterParticipant
Thanks for the info, I drink a lot of decaf green tea thinking it's healthy. I may switch to herbal for a while and see if there's any difference. This article states that though tea leaves are hight in oxalic the amount used to make a cup of tea is small.
Always knew rhubard and spinach was high though. This article sound like almonds peanuts are real high also.
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