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  • #299973
    Lynne G.SD
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    Hi Gang;
        While searching for foods with badly needed EFA s and no vit. D I ran into this.http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2434.html

    #310462
    steph-sclero
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    Lynne,

    What a great site! Thanks a bunch! Going to bookmark that one. You're always so clever to find the good stuff in spite of being so busy.

    Hugs,

    Steph

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    richie
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    Hi Lynne

    I guess the only thing left to eat is an orchid salad ;)–I guess anyone whole follows this carefully would have to walk into a restaurabt with a book full of notations of foods not to eat –lets see avoid –sea food –shellfish–avoid grains–fruit veggies–soy–mushrooms–milk breakfasr cereals


    fruit juice –avoid juicing


    it will be very easy to spot someone on the MP–just look at that hunger in their eyes and face –it reaches a point of “Is it worth it ” –???????????

    Richie

    #310464
    steph-sclero
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    Richie;

    I tried the diet changes a couple of times but couldn't continue for any length of time. I don't eat a lot but when I do I'd like to enjoy it. This monster has already changed so much about my life, you have to draw the line somewhere. What's the sense in living longer but being miserable. I think it was you who said you've done just as well without all the dietary changes.

    Cheers,

    Steph

    #310465
    John McDonald
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    Richie – I think the diet fuss is a bit over the top too. I have avoided fish and mushrooms and anything explicitly fortified with D. I don't much worry about the rest. Maybe if you are really, really sick, then it may be more important.

    #310466
    Goodwife
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    This is a good list for certain people who need dietary changes to improve their health.  As I looked over this list, a lot of the things that are  listed were also prohibited on my husband's antiinflammatory diet which he had followed for about 6 weeks before starting AP.  It helped a great deal with inflammation, but along with that made him tired, hungry, miserable, and thinner.    What I also noticed is that some things that are NO-NOs were the exact things that have greatly helped him improve over the last 15-16 months on AP and after the diet.  Omega 3, whey protein, eggs, just to name a few.  At this point, he is MUCH happier, healthier, “feeling like a million bucks” and 15 pounds heavier (of muscle due to being back on a weight lifting routine).  If anyone is looking to eliminate these foods from their diet, I would seek a naturopathic doc or someone qualified to determine if it is necessary or recommended, and how strict.  In addition, if I could change how we did things, I would have had food sensitivity tests done prior to eliminating the boatload of foods that the diet did.  Dont get me wrong, it was hugely helpful in swelling of hands, fingers, and healing of ulcers, which was THE most important thing at the time for him.  But it is extremely restrictive and you need a lot of determination to follow it.

    #310467
    Lynne G.SD
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    MSG The food additive MSG (Mono-Sodium Glutamate) is a slow poison.  MSG hides behind 25 or more names, such as 'Natural Flavouring.'
     
    MSG is even in your favourite coffee from Tim Horton's and other brand-name coffee shops!
     
    I wondered if there could be an actual chemical causing the massive obesity epidemic, and so did a friend of mine, John Erb. He was a research assistant at the University of Waterloo in Ontario , Canada , and spent years working for the government.  He made an amazing discovery while going through scientific journals for a book he was writing called The Slow Poisoning of America.
     
    In hundreds of studies around the world, scientists were creating obese mice and rats to use in diet or diabetes test studies.  No strain of rat or mice is naturally obese, so scientists have to create them.  They make these creatures morbidly obese by injecting them with MSG when they are first born.  The MSG triples the amount of insulin the pancreas creates, causing rats (and perhaps humans) to become obese.  They even have a name for the fat rodents they create:  'MSG-Treated Rats.'
     
    When I heard this, I was shocked.  I went into my kitchen and checked the cupboards and the refrigerator.  MSG was in everything — the Campbell 's soups, the Hostess Doritos, the Lays flavoured potato chips, Top Ramen, Betty Crocker Hamburger Helper, Heinz canned gravy, Swanson frozen prepared meals, and Kraft salad dressings, especially the 'healthy low-fat' ones.
     
    The items that didn't have MSG marked on the product label had something called 'Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein,' which is just another name for Monosodium Glutamate.
     
    It was shocking to see just how many of the foods we feed our children everyday are filled with this stuff.  MSG is hidden under many different names in order to fool those who read the ingredient list, so that they don't catch on.  (Other names for MSG are 'Accent, 'Aginomoto,' 'Natural Meat Tenderizer,' etc.)
     
    But it didn't stop there.
     
    When our family went out to eat, we started asking at the restaurants what menu items contained MSG.  Many employees, even the managers, swore they didn't use MSG.
     
    But when we ask for the ingredient list, which they grudgingly provided, sure enough, MSG and Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein were everywhere.
     
    Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's, Taco Bell, every restaurant — even the sit-down eateries like TGIF, Chili's, Applebee's, and Denny's — use MSG in abundance.  Kentucky Fried Chicken seemed to be the WORST offender:  MSG was in every chicken dish, salad dressing. and gravy.  No wonder I loved to eat that coating on the skin — their secret spice was MSG!
     
    So why is MSG in so many of the foods we eat?  Is it a preservative, or a vitamin?
     
    Not according to my friend John Erb.  In his book The Slow Poisoning of America, he said that MSG is added to food for the addictive effect it has on the human body.
     
    Even the propaganda website sponsored by the food manufacturers lobby group supporting MSG explains that the reason they add it to food is to make people eat more.
     
    A study of the elderly showed that older people eat more of the foods that it is added to.  The Glutamate Association lobbying group says eating more is a benefit to the elderly, but what does it do to the rest of us?
     
    Betcha can't eat [just] one,' takes on a whole new meaning where MSG is concerned!  And we wonder why the nation is overweight!
     
    MSG manufacturers themselves admit that it addicts people to their products.  It makes people choose their product over others, and makes people eat more of it than they would if MSG wasn't added.
     
    Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity, it is an addictive substance.  Since its introduction into the American food supply fifty years ago, MSG has been added in larger and larger doses to the pre-packaged meals, soups, snacks, and fast foods we are tempted to eat everyday.
     
    The FDA has set no limits on how much of it can be added to food.  They claim it's safe to eat in any amount.  But how can they claim it's safe when there are hundreds of scientific studies with titles like these:
     
    'The monosodium glutamate (MSG) obese rat as a model for the study of exercise in obesity.'  Gobatto CA, Mello MA, Souza CT, Ribeiro IA. Res Commun Mol Pathol Pharmacol. 2002.
     
    Adrenalectomy abolishes the food-induced hypothalamic serotonin release in both normal and monosodium glutamate-obese rats.'  Guimaraes RB, Telles MM, Coelho VB, Mori C, Nascimento CM, Ribeiro.  Brain Res Bull. 2002 Aug.
     
    Obesity induced by neonatal monosodium glutamate treatment in spontaneously hypertensive rats: An animal model of multiple risk factors.'  Iwase M, Yamamoto M, Iino K, Ichikawa K, Shinohara N, Yoshinari Fujishima.  Hypertens Res. 1998 Mar.
     
    Hypothalamic lesion induced by injection of monosodium glutamate in suckling period and subsequent development of obesity.'  Tanaka K, Shimada M, Nakao K Kusunoki.  Exp Neurol. 1978 Oct.
     
    No, the date of that last study was not a typo; it was published in 1978.  Both the 'medical research community' and ?food manufacturers' have known about the side effects of MSG for decades.
     
    Many more of the studies mentioned in John Erb's book link MSG to diabetes, migraines and headaches, autism, ADHD, and even Alzheimer's.
     
    So what can we do to stop the food manufactures from dumping this fattening and addictive MSG into our food supply and causing the obesity epidemic we now see?
     
    Several months ago, John Erb took his book and his concerns to one of the highest government health officials in Canada . While he was sitting in the government office, the official told him, 'Sure, I know how bad MSG is.  I wouldn't touch the stuff.' But this top-level government official refuses to tell the public what he knows.
     
    The big media doesn't want to tell the public either, fearing issues with their advertisers.  It seems that the fallout on the fast food industry may hurt their profit margin.  The food producers and restaurants have been addicting us to their products for years, and now we are paying the price for it.  Our children should not be cursed with obesity caused by an addictive food additive.
     
    But what can I do about it?  I'm just one voice!  What can I do to stop the poisoning of our children, while our governments are insuring financial protection for the industry that is poisoning us?
     
    This message is going out to everyone I know in an attempt to tell you the truth that the corporate-owned politicians and media won't tell you.
     
    The best way you can help to save yourself and your children from this drug-induced epidemic is to forward this article to everyone.  With any luck, it will circle the globe before politicians can pass the legislation protecting those who are poisoning us.
     
    The food industry learned a lot from the tobacco industry. Imagine if big tobacco had a bill like this in place before someone blew the whistle on nicotine?
     
    If you are one of the few who can still believe that MSG is good for us and you don't believe what John Erb has to say, see for yourself.  Go to the National Library of Medicine at http://www.pubmed.com.
     
    Type in the words 'MSG Obese' and read a few of the 115 medical studies that appear.
     
    We the public do not want to be rats in one giant experiment, and we do not approve of food that makes us into a nation of obese, lethargic, addicted sheep, feeding the food industry's bottom line while waiting for the heart transplant, the diabetic-induced amputation, blindness, or other obesity-induced, life-threatening disorders.
     
    With your help we can put an end to this poison.
     
    Do your part in sending this message out by word of mouth, e-mail, or by distribution of this printout to your friends all over the world and stop this 'Slow Poisoning of Mankind' by the packaged food industry.
     
    Blowing the whistle on MSG is our responsibility, so get the word out.

     
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      Hi Ritchie;
          You make me laugh.Problem is that there are so many things now that I can't eat probably due to the darned Celiac disease that damaged my gut so much before I ever knew I had it.Now I can't have peas,beans,lentils,soy,anything “cow” anything from sugar cane,no citrus,no nightshades,no D foods,no lamb ,no grains and several other things that I can't think of at the moment.It does make eating out a misery .I always had a real allergy to MSG and here is a little article a friend sent me…already knew about it but figured I should pass it on to others.Oh yes, now that diverticulitis has showed up I can't have nuts or anything like raspberries that have seeds in them.An orchid salad sounds good at times but being a good French girl I can make a great meal out of almost nothing.Chinese,Indian and Thai are my best and easiest meals to make that taste great.
       I think the food list on the MP site is meant to guide people that have tested positive to food sensitivities and D disregulation and anyone with one of our terrible diseases should be tested so that they don't end up like me.Unknown Celiac just about ruined my life

      

    #310468
    Michele
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    Lynne,

    Your MSG information is so valuable! Thank you for posting it! Two years ago I lobbied senators on a committee that was evaluating the labeling of MSG in our food chain. It used to have to be on the label as MSG. They essentially ended up making it possible for MSG to hide in the labels as “natural spices” in addition to the host of other labels you mention in your message above.

    This substance causes me severe intestinal distress, so I know within 20 minutes of eating food with it if I've been poisoned by MSG. It is everywhere! And the scary part is, so many restaurant workers do not know it is in their food, so they will say it's not in their product and I will have a reaction. Travelling is a nightmare.

    Thanks for your post!
    Michele

    #310469

    If you really do have a Vit D problem as severe as I had the D information was helpful

    however I never ever stopped my Flax oil just cut it down from 10 per day to 8 because it helped with the inflammation and my memory which was bad. 

    What I found out was that you really need just to increase gradually.  I found that out accidently, on the way along.  I now can eat the fish etc. I kept off for a while without any trouble. you gradually get the hang of it.  The most important part was keeping out of the sun as they put me into agony, for 48 hours. No one does this unless they have to.  I will do whatever it takes to get on top of this.  This problem happens when the heart is badly effected so we have to toe the line or else.   Starch and sugar feeds the bugs so I am doing my best to control this so my immune system will recover quicker.  It will only do that when I get the level of bacteria back to an acceptable level like everyone else.  I want that asap so am prepared to do whatever it takes. Most do whatever they like. You would not like to live like I have for the past 20 odd years without finding out how to fix it.  I am fortunate to have found a way.

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